Saturday, January 23, 2010

Voyagers!~How it all ends...


My latest video creation. This song is so touching to me and the video is filled with a certain pathos...from many of my favorite scenes that I can't shake from using. Is that good or bad? It's so hard to decide when you only have twenty episodes and not every one is your favorite..(shh, don't tell anyone I said that!)
I plan to make another video soon, and what I usually do is find clips that are just as cool, if underused. Plus the next song will be very different.
If I had more disc space and better programs on my comp, this probably would have been much grander. In my mind it surely was. :P
To my surprise in this video, "No romance while the omni is red!"
I think I made the ultimate 'Bogg Romance' videos a while back, heheh. Voyagers is not necessarily about that, even if Bogg is sometimes :eye roll:...it's about the partnership, friendship and camaraderie between two lost souls. One stuck in a somewhat thankless job with no real ties and family, and struggling to get by with his limited knowledge of history...and the other, historically brilliant and stuck in a loveless home with no parents and possibly friends to speak of...did you ever hear Jeffrey say, 'I miss my friends Billy and Jack?' No, his mind was far away, on the high seas with Calico Jack and in the frontier with Billy the Kid.
Bogg and Jeff needed each other for support.

This is just a small tribute to our heroes, Bogg and Jeff. and the important work that they do. Voyagers forever!

25 comments:

  1. Ginger,I really love this video! It is fantastic and so beautiful.I also agree with you that there are some episodes that are not my favorites. I think you made a good point about both Bogg and Jeff being lost souls , especially Jeff.I often belived that he may not have had many friends. The only people he talks about missing were his parents,maybe thats why Bogg meant so much to him. Thanks again for another wonderful tribute to my favorite show! EmilyW

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  2. Thank you Emily! :) Bogg also seemed to be just drifting around without attachments to anyone, and that's made pretty clear throughout the series, it could be lonely to be a Voyager. You are right, Bogg meant so much to him because he filled that parental and friendship void.

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  3. I loved this video! And it showed really FANTASTIC clips and I loved how you had Bogg talk in it. And that scene with Phineas & Jeffrey arguing in the pilot is still one of my very favs! Along with the baby Moses scene. ;)

    And while the show was made for kids, with Jon in it and his romances it catered to the older crowd too. :)

    5 BIG stars Ginger!

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  4. This is great. Not a fan of the music, but the video is really well edited together. I like the sections with speech, and the clips are all well chosen.

    Although you're making me want to watch the show again, which is not going to help me get other things done. ;)

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  5. Your comment to the video is almost even better than the video itself! Such wonderful thoughts about our two heroes, I think you're absolutely right.
    I think that's why I fell in love with the show again after such a long time, it wasn't the plots, or History, or time travel, although each of them has a certain thrill to me, no, it was the characters! You can still love them, because they are so real. I was pretty much a lost soul like Jeffrey when I was his age, that's why I loved him so much.
    I also liked to see many clips that are rarely, or never, used in videos. But I'm starting to believe that it's almost impossible to make a Voyagers-fanvid without a stake scene!

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  6. Thank you all for your honest opinions. About the music, I needed a few listens before the song really hooked me, and then I came to love it, and the words were inspiring when I put it in a 'Voyagers' context. I watch the other video makers 'Lost' videos very closely, though I can't match up his effects, I appreciate the music he uses, as Lost deals with Time travel. It's great.
    I could get very picky with my songs and videos. If i don't see it flowing, I scratch it. Some people just make slapdash videos with their favorite songs but nothing matches. lol.
    I think I used many 'stake' scenes in this one, but like i mentioned, my brain envisioned something huge, buy my comp couldn't cut it, lol. I eventually plan on getting a big separate hard drive and keeping all the episodes downloaded on there for instant access to make these.
    And yeah, the immediate thrills of Voyagers is the adventure and time travel, but after a while you come to love 'the boys' as real people and appreciate their relationship. I think we all felt a little like Jeffrey at that age. I know I was a bookworm and preferred the company of books to other kids, and only had a small close circle of friends and a BIG imagination..So wow, I can relate to Jeffrey in those ways.
    Time for honesty-I haven't sat down to really watch the show in many, many months. Yet I run the websites, lol. So much to do, so little time. I wish I had powers that could stop time, like in that eighties show 'Out of this world' one of my favorites, lol.
    I plan to have a Voyagers marathon one of these days! Or a Voyagers weekend, lol. I'm feeling so behind.

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  7. As a bookworm and a probably a straight-A student, he probably took a lot of guff from his schoolmates, too, even though he was also athletic. But then, Little League isn't necessarily associated with any particular school, either. I picked this up from the way he was so ready to fight Dodger.

    I think all of us were pretty much set apart from our schoolmates, with only a very small circle of friends. It's that big imagination; it set us apart from the others in a way that made them unable to understand us most of the time. That big imagination in which we took refuge from the storms...And Jeffrey got to have his come true!

    Add a highly dysfunctional family to that mix, and you can see why I would identify with the kid.

    ---Jake

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  8. Hey Jake! Don't forget, Jeffrey was also a little New York kid, that automatically gives you a this cloak of 'toughness' LOL! You know, we're Brooklynites too, right? lol.
    I agree with you on all points. My family was 'normal', but there was dysfunction throughout with everyone else...only as an adult do you look back and notice the little quirks of your own family and wish things were different here and there.
    Who knows what dysfunction there was in Jeffrey's family? I mean, yes he loved his dad, he was the best...but you never know! Maybe his father was so busy being a professor that whatever time he made for him, Jeffrey cherished, like the baseball game and all that..but I think Jeff's dad was very attentive to him..hum..notice he never mentions his mom?? LOL. Not even to say, hey, Bogg, she was a great cook! HAHA.

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  9. Hmmm, I never really noticed before that he never talks about his mother, except in "Merry Christmas, Bogg." But I guess the real reason he doesn't talk about them a lot is because it still hurts too much. I always got the impression, though, that he and his father were very close. I mean, if they weren't, he wouldn't really have all that extra knowledge of history that most 6th- and 7th-graders don't have. I imagine his father told him a lot of stories from the time he was little and so gave him that love of history that drove him to read as much as he obviously did (that loaded bookshelf comes to mind...)

    Oh, yeah, that cloak of toughness---amazing the things you can survive with that...though a lot of the "yuppies" that have taken over the old neighborhoods just don't get it, do they? ;D

    ---Jake

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  10. I totally agree with you Jake, I'm just being difficult and fanning the 'What if?' flames. LOL.
    Yeah, yuppies have taken over, but I do have to admit a lot of the crummy neighborhoods are really thriving now...still, sometimes there's nothing like that old Bklyn grit!

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  11. Oh dear! Just go on talking about Jeff, it's so fascinating! :-)
    Still, you don't need a dysfunctional family to be a lost soul, a bookworm with a lot of imagination and set apart from the others, always with your head in the clouds. I'm the best proof. My family is wonderful, but when I was Jeffrey's age, it really hurt me that this adventure came true for him and not for me! Some days I thought I couldn't go on living without time traveling. I would have left my family and all just to join them in the field.

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  12. I agree there too Delores! I had my head in the clouds because it was always in a book. I didn't have Voyagers to watch at a young age, but I remember like I mentioned somewhere above, I really wanted to be Evie from 'Out of this world' with her alien powers to stop time when she put her fingertips together. hehee. That was a great power to have when you were being picked on a lot by your peers and just want them to shut up.
    I started my Voyagers 'marathon' with the first two episodes last night. Managed to come up with 25 trivia questions between the two and I've come up with a little new section for the notes page. I just haven't gotten it all together yet as it involves a few screencaps. Also thought of some new random facts.

    I mean I still wanted to just chill and watch and enjoy it, lol.

    Jeff got school tomorrow, that leads me to believe he had perfect attendance, and was worried he'd' miss it.. always wanting to run out the door of his aunt's apartment. He obviously liked school enough to blurt that one out..I got school, but not, I miss all my friends and my mother's meatloaf. hehe. That still cracks me up.
    And I don't think I ever realized how historically 'dumb' Bogg actually is! LOL. Yeah, I know he's a pirate, but the man went to school for all this, he claimed he never even heard of the Wright brothers. I'm starting to believe that Voyagers school passed him on his good looks and stamina alone.LOL.

    He really doesn't know much of anything without this kid..that is until they wizened him up in the latter episodes. Somewhere along the way he must have started hitting the books at Jeffrey's strict orders! LOL. I know when I write my stories, once in a while I like to make him know these obscure little things that shock Jeffrey, like the cereal Fruit Loops was created in 1963. hehe.

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  13. He probably also really liked school, even if the other kids did diss him all the time. I know I was like that, and I couldn't go one day without getting into a fight on the way home! ;D

    I think what happened is they got told by too many fan letters that they had overdone the "dumb" thing. The man's not stupid, he just didn't pay attention. I didn't really pay attention to history in school either; it was my least favorite subject at the time, and I tended to spend that time writing stories (been doing that since I was about five or six!). But even at that, I knew more about it than he did! I've pretty much picked up that it was mostly the real biggies he remembered, with a few minor things thrown in. He remembers events, but he can't seem to keep them connected with their proper dates. (1918---Revolutionary War; 1066---Pearl Harbor?!!---Kind of ironic that he actually ended up there eventually ;D)

    ---Jake

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  14. Well, at the time Jeff said "I've got school tomorrow" he didn't know that he was never going to return to his own time and go to school and meet his classmates or friends anymore. And he had no reason to miss his parents or his Mum's cuisine less or more than he already did. Him being out of time didn't change anything about his parents' death.
    I think I could have reacted pretty much the same way, not because I loved school that much (which I didn't), but because I would have been afraid to get in trouble if I missed it. But if anyone had told me: "It's OK, you won't have to worry about school anymore", I probably would have said: "Cool, let's go, then!"
    And Bogg, well, also before they wizened him up he could quote Albert Schweitzer's "Ehrfurcht vor dem Leben"! And still in Titanic they keep saying to him: If you hadn't slept in Voyager school... so I don't think it's that much a difference, I agree there with you, Jake, he knows some facts, even some real specific ones, but he doesn't know how they fit in.

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  15. I just joke about his mother's food thing throughout the course of the series. I know he wouldn't have been saying I want meatloaf right after he landed with Bogg in 1918, LOL! That's totally the least of his worries. The wizened Bogg was a minor difference, but still a difference, along with a haircut and color, a new darker, vest made of felt material and a shirt somehow cut even lower than ever. haha.
    I loved history, but I stunk with dates myself, and usually it was all about the dates for tests..booo!

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  16. My own historical knowledge is very much like Bogg's - highly selective, but on a higher level, I think.
    For example, I could tell you about all six wifes of Henry VIII, how the Vikings used to baptize their ships, and what a General from Carthago has in common with a Russian city formerly known as Leningrad, but don't ever ask me what happened during the two World Wars, or about the presidents of doesn't matter what country, I would be totally lost!

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  17. Ginger, here is one thought I had about Jeff and his mother , maybe she was not a great cook, so he might not have talked about her meatloaf .I am not a good cook at all so Iam not sure what my son kwould say! Bogg must have known more history than it was first shown in the early episodes , he knew about Lawrence of Arabia and did know a little about Billy the Kid. I wonder if Jon or his manger suggested they make Bogg a little smarter. All these comments are great! EmilyW

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  18. I loved this video and yes it made me cry. I think I am in a way a lot like Bogg too. I mean I know some things but I don't know everything about history like the two World Wars. I would need the help of Jeffrey too.

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  19. Thank you Traci, I actually got teary myself at some points making this, at least emotional. I guess when you have to listen to the song over and over and over to get the clips right, it catches up. Especially with the Billy the Kid part. I put that in there because of the Bogg and Jeff situation, but when I rewatch that part where there's a close up of Billy's gun and then Bogg tossing it, I just can't help thinking of Jon-Erik himself. But anyway, you're right, I would need help on a voyage too. I think Voyagers should, for the most part, be sent out in pairs. If one Voyager falls, who would be there to help them? It makes sense to me.
    In one of my stories I had VHQ create a program like that. Where Voyagers get special omnis that are linked to others and they help those they are assigned to.

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  20. Actually, help is automatic, sort of. If it looks like a Voyager's about to fail a mission, another one is always sent to help out. It's in the Guidebook, and we saw it in action in "Voyagers of the Titanic," where it turned out that Bogg and Jeff's assignment was to help Olivia right when she was about to become fish food.

    ---Jake

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  21. Well, unfortunately the show doesn't *tell* us what's in the guidebook, so we are left scratching our heads, lol. Yeah, you're right, they did come to help Olivia, but I think that everything on the show is just so random, it's like, Bogg was so shocked to see her. That's why in my story I created the 'three-light' omni. I think a Voyager should be alerted beforehand that he is going to be sent to aid someone, not just tossed from one time zone to the next, ill prepared...and like my story, they are assigned specific voyagers to help out so it's not all haphazard. Well, those are just my thoughts, no system of doing things is perfect. And I don't use that idea in every story I write. Randomly bumping into other Voyagers could be fun too. :)

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  22. Well, I always thought they are randomly bumping into other Voyagers, and also Bogg wasn´t actually sent to Jeffrey's room. The omni just leaves them somewhere, and there they have to find out what's wrong and how they can help. It's not like their assignments are planned and directed in advance.
    Otherwise why should they put Bogg on trial for taking Jeffrey with him when they had made him go and take him? I think VHQ was also surprised to find out it was Jeffrey's destiny all along.

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  23. Good point, which brings up another theory, that history is always 'changing' so to speak, because apparently, the guidebook updates itself. So, if Bogg randomly landed in Jeffrey's room, then suddenly his history *changed* in that he was to become a Voyager...hence Garth's surprise at the *new* documents. Time travel is a fickle so and so!!! GAHH!!!
    I would like to think that VHQ at least monitors the activities of their Voyagers to protect them, that's what I meant by the program I created. Everyone could use a shove where it's needed, lol.

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  24. As Ginger, said, no system is perfect. According to the Guidebook, a Voyager is always recalled to HQ and briefed before he picks up a recruit. Between that and the fact that everyone was surprised to find out Jeff was supposed to be a Voyager, it's my opinion that whoever is in charge of sending Voyagers to recruit others missed this one, and some hypothetical controlling computer corrected the oversight.

    ---Jake

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  25. Oooh, EXCELLENT point, Ginger! The ever-shifting timeline. (I answered Dolores' post before I even saw yours... :o

    With all those kids that have vanished, many with no evidence of their fate ever being found...Here, Jeff's just another statistic (who was it that mentioned in a fic that his disappearance even made "Unsolved Mysteries"?).

    ---Jake

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